Startel??

The King · 03-23-2007, 01:48 PM

Hi,

With Betamax trying their hardest to lose my custom with their attitude to voxalot I have been looking for a non-Betamax provider.

I came across http://startel.pt/eng/index.html
They seem to have a similar business model to Betamax (i.e Euro 10 top up give you free calls, not sure for how long though)

Anyone know of them / used them?
Obviously sceptical to sign up and hand over my hard earned cash to just anyone!

kurun · 03-23-2007, 02:05 PM

Viewing the English page, the FAQ says that the free calls are limited to one minute.
http://startel.pt/eng/faq.html

See Items 1.6 and 1.7.

Not sure what they mean, because I thought I can only register my own number, not destination numbers, and obviously there is no VOIP path to a pure landline number (otherwise, I would call it directly).

Their rates are quite reasonable otherwise.

Tried to register yesterday, but did not receive a confirmation email yet.

The King · 03-23-2007, 03:09 PM

I think, much like Betamax, that if you don't sign up for the Euro 10 'VIP' service then you only get 1 minute of free calls.

If you purchase the VIP service it doesn't say what the time limits are.

I registered no problem, email arrived instantly.
Signed up for the free service, haven't paid anything as yet.

tomblandford · 03-23-2007, 05:15 PM

At first I thought they only offered free calls to ENUM numbers - i.e. phone numbers that can be registered as VoIP numbers at e164.org, like the ones Sipgate give out. Then I saw the VIP section and now I'm not so sure. It sure looks like you get free calls. Someone must be daring enough to add credit - go on!! I just lost €10 on Betamax's new product JustVoip, which I now find out doesn't have SIP enabled!

On StarTel I can't find the host name anywhere. The pictures do not download no the XLite Configuration page. Is it just startel.pt?
Update: says it's registered now with startel.pt as host. Will now switch back to non-registration mode.

foneboxx · 03-23-2007, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomblandford

At first I thought they only offered free calls to ENUM numbers - i.e. phone numbers that can be registered as VoIP numbers at e164.org, like the ones Sipgate give out. Then I saw the VIP section and now I'm not so sure. It sure looks like you get free calls. Someone must be daring enough to add credit - go on!! I just lost €10 on Betamax's new product JustVoip, which I now find out doesn't have SIP enabled!

On StarTel I can't find the host name anywhere. The pictures do not download no the XLite Configuration page. Is it just startel.pt?
Update: says it's registered now with startel.pt as host. Will now switch back to non-registration mode.

Did you say" I just lost €10 on Betamax's new product JustVoip, which I now find out doesn't have SIP enabled! "?????!!!
Ok, so i've lost my 10€ too...

kurun · 03-23-2007, 06:01 PM

I believe proxy is sip.startel.pt, host is startel.pt

Pics download in IE but not in Firefox. Had the same problem.

foneboxx · 03-23-2007, 06:26 PM

thanx kurun but (just a small off topic sorry for that

), someone has the justvoip trick to use SIP?
Thanx a lot

andy · 03-24-2007, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The King

If you purchase the VIP service it doesn't say what the time limits are.

You have to recharge your account every 6 months

[email a few days ago]

The King · 03-24-2007, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy

You have to recharge your account every 6 months

[email a few days ago]

So you emailed them and got a reply?

Sound better than Betamax already!!

I was thinking of emailing them and asking if they would have a problem with Voxalot (as last thing I want is to register and then they block Voxalot like Betamax).

What do you guys think? I hope that an email to clear things up will help to start with, but then a part of me thinks if I give them a heads-up they may realise that the may want to block Voxalot!

Won't send an email until I get a feel for what you all think...

tomblandford · 03-24-2007, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The King

So you emailed them and got a reply?
Sound better than Betamax already!!

I got a reply very quickly too. Great service from StarTel. They said, yes the PSTN calls really are free.
This week I got a reply from Betamax for the first time as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by The King

I was thinking of emailing them and asking if they would have a problem with Voxalot (as last thing I want is to register and then they block Voxalot like Betamax).

What do you guys think? I hope that an email to clear things up will help to start with, but then a part of me thinks if I give them a heads-up they may realise that the may want to block Voxalot!

My thoughts exactly, so I didn't ask in the end. But I wonder if it's best to be upfront. If they get a whole load of new users all using Voxalot, they'll soon find out. I say go for it and ask. Any one else got an opinion?

StarTel solves one problem - we've got free landline calls with Voxalot now it seems. BUT VoipCheap still offers the best mobile rates so I'd still like to see Betamax back on Voxalot...

03-23-2007, 01:48 PM	#1
The King Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 63 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Startel?? Hi, With Betamax trying their hardest to lose my custom with their attitude to voxalot I have been looking for a non-Betamax provider. I came across http://startel.pt/eng/index.html They seem to have a similar business model to Betamax (i.e Euro 10 top up give you free calls, not sure for how long though) Anyone know of them / used them? Obviously sceptical to sign up and hand over my hard earned cash to just anyone!

03-23-2007, 02:05 PM	#2
kurun Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 568 Thanks: 70 Thanked 147 Times in 115 Posts	StarTel free calls Viewing the English page, the FAQ says that the free calls are limited to one minute. http://startel.pt/eng/faq.html See Items 1.6 and 1.7. Not sure what they mean, because I thought I can only register my own number, not destination numbers, and obviously there is no VOIP path to a pure landline number (otherwise, I would call it directly). Their rates are quite reasonable otherwise. Tried to register yesterday, but did not receive a confirmation email yet.

03-23-2007, 05:15 PM	#4
tomblandford Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 222 Thanks: 44 Thanked 23 Times in 22 Posts	At first I thought they only offered free calls to ENUM numbers - i.e. phone numbers that can be registered as VoIP numbers at e164.org, like the ones Sipgate give out. Then I saw the VIP section and now I'm not so sure. It sure looks like you get free calls. Someone must be daring enough to add credit - go on!! I just lost €10 on Betamax's new product JustVoip, which I now find out doesn't have SIP enabled! On StarTel I can't find the host name anywhere. The pictures do not download no the XLite Configuration page. Is it just startel.pt? Update: says it's registered now with startel.pt as host. Will now switch back to non-registration mode. Last edited by tomblandford; 03-23-2007 at 05:34 PM.

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03-23-2007, 03:09 PM	#3
The King Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 63 Thanks: 18 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I think, much like Betamax, that if you don't sign up for the Euro 10 'VIP' service then you only get 1 minute of free calls. If you purchase the VIP service it doesn't say what the time limits are. I registered no problem, email arrived instantly. Signed up for the free service, haven't paid anything as yet.

03-23-2007, 06:01 PM	#6
kurun Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 568 Thanks: 70 Thanked 147 Times in 115 Posts	I believe proxy is sip.startel.pt, host is startel.pt Pics download in IE but not in Firefox. Had the same problem.

03-23-2007, 06:26 PM	#7
foneboxx Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 99 Thanks: 24 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	thanx kurun but (just a small off topic sorry for that ), someone has the justvoip trick to use SIP? Thanx a lot