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Unread 12-22-2008, 08:57 PM   #11
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Emoci - I may be misunderstanding somthing

I am registered with Voxalot through Trixbox.

I removed all forwarding at Voxalot

I make SIP call to Voxalot and nothing comes into my Trixbox.

I may have somethign wrong in my Voxalot trunk settings.

I need to start simple and get Voxalot calls to arrive before troubleshooting with VSP Orbtalk.

I can call myself through Voxalot but it says Person Unavailable.

It should ring in. This may be inbound Trunk Setting problems.

Trixbox Setup:

Outgoing Settings

Trunk:

Trunk Name: voxalot-out
canreinvite=no
fromdomain=us.voxalot.com
fromuser=305###
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
secret=secret
type=peer
username=305###

Incoming Settings

USER Context: voxalot-in

USER Details:

canreinvite=no
context=custom-voxalot
fromdomain=us.voxalot.com
fromuser=305###
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
secret=secret
type=peer
username=305###

Register String:

305###:secret@us.voxalot.com

Any Ideas?
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Unread 12-22-2008, 09:04 PM   #12
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Emoci -

ATA registered with Voxalot?

I only have this to go by as sign Regostered:

69*CLI> sip show registry
Host Username Refresh State
us.voxalot.com:5060 305### 585 Registered

69*CLI> sip show peers
Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Port Status
voxalot-out/305### 64.34.173.199 N 5060 Unmonitored
voxalot-in/305### 64.34.173.199 N 5060 Unmonitored

Outbound calls appear OK - Inbound is questionable - I cannot get my lines to ring with SIP URI call to Voxalot.
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Unread 12-22-2008, 09:07 PM   #13
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Emoci - I may be misunderstanding somthing

I am registered with Voxalot through Trixbox.

I removed all forwarding at Voxalot

I make SIP call to Voxalot and nothing comes into my Trixbox.

I may have somethign wrong in my Voxalot trunk settings.

I need to start simple and get Voxalot calls to arrive before troubleshooting with VSP Orbtalk.

I can call myself through Voxalot but it says Person Unavailable.

It should ring in. This may be inbound Trunk Setting problems.

Trixbox Setup:

Outgoing Settings

Trunk:

Trunk Name: voxalot-out
canreinvite=no
fromdomain=us.voxalot.com
fromuser=305###
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
secret=secret
type=peer
username=305###

Incoming Settings

USER Context: voxalot-in

USER Details:

canreinvite=no
context=custom-voxalot
fromdomain=us.voxalot.com
fromuser=305###
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
secret=secret
type=peer
username=305###

Register String:

305###:secret@us.voxalot.com

Any Ideas?

I'd suggest the following (both incoming and outgoing):

username = 123456
fromuser = 123456
callerid= My Name
secret = password
host = us.voxalot.com
fromdomain = voxalot.com
context=from-pstn
nat=yes
insecure=very
type=peer
qualify=no
canreinvite=yes
dtmfmode=auto
disallow=all
allow=alaw&ulaw&g729&g726


Use http://voxalot.com/action/deviceRegistrations to see what VoXalot sees asregistered on this end...

Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers...

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Unread 12-22-2008, 09:23 PM   #14
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I tried several Trunk settings including yours - all result in same:

When I call myself at sip:######@us.voxalot.com, I get voice recording " The person at Extension... is not available"

I have Voice mail disabled so I can force calls to the registered Box.

Apparently Voxalot is still not send me incoming calls.


Any more clues? BTW - Thanks for your time.
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Unread 12-22-2008, 09:40 PM   #15
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Re:
Use http://voxalot.com/action/deviceRegistrations to see what VoXalot sees asregistered on this end...

Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers... - It shows Registered.

Test Incoming - I am totally brain dead on these access numbers.

Search for "Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers"
gives me:

http://forum.voxalot.com/sip-broker-...us-thread.html

No access numbers on this page.

SIPBroker - PSTN Numbers

It says:
Here is a current list of PSTN access numbers that work with SIP Broker. At the voice prompt, dial [sip-code][number] or ENUM number:

But a text search for Voxalot on this page gives no hits. Even if it did I am not clear on : ?At the voice prompt, dial [sip-code][number] or ENUM number?

They have numbers like: Bahia Blanca +54-291-485-4001 camundaNET
From the number schema - I cannot tell the [sip number] from the [number]

Can you help me figure out how to:

Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers?

Cheers
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Unread 12-22-2008, 09:52 PM   #16
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Re:
Use http://voxalot.com/action/deviceRegistrations to see what VoXalot sees asregistered on this end...

Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers... - It shows Registered.

Test Incoming - I am totally brain dead on these access numbers.

Search for "Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers"
gives me:

http://forum.voxalot.com/sip-broker-...us-thread.html

No access numbers on this page.

SIPBroker - PSTN Numbers

It says:
Here is a current list of PSTN access numbers that work with SIP Broker. At the voice prompt, dial [sip-code][number] or ENUM number:

But a text search for Voxalot on this page gives no hits. Even if it did I am not clear on : ?At the voice prompt, dial [sip-code][number] or ENUM number?

They have numbers like: Bahia Blanca +54-291-485-4001 camundaNET
From the number schema - I cannot tell the [sip number] from the [number]

Can you help me figure out how to:

Test incoming via SipBroker access numbers?

Cheers

You call the SipBroker Access number using a regular PSTN phone (list of numbers is here SIPBroker - PSTN Numbers , find one that's local to you hopefully )

After reaching the gateway, dial *010-123456 (replace 123456 with your VoXalot number)...

This works like a number+extension method to call different users on various VoIP networks...

It seems to me though you have some NAT issues with the network behind which your Trixbox is sitting (so far Orbtalk and VoXalot both have issues registering with your setup)...do you have UPnP enabled, what router are you using?
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Unread 12-22-2008, 10:14 PM   #17
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Just tested through Sip Broker Access NUmbers:

Call arrived fine - Working OK! Good stuff.

Does this eliminate the NAT/Router Problem.

I have the following accounts working
18 sip peers [15 online , 3 offline]
16 iax2 peers [5 online, 0 offline, 11 unmonitored]
Broadvoice
Sipgate
Junction Networks
Messagenet
VOIPJet
Les.net
sipphone.com

Aside from receiving SIP calls from Enum and Guests

Unless Voxalot is using a classified port?

My router is a Buffallo WHR-HP-54 with DD-WRT v24 RC-3

In summary - It works with a whole slew of providers 24/7 so what the problem is with Voxalot - I am just now figuring out with your help.

So back to my last findings: Sip Broker Calls arrived and worked - Still no joy with Calls from Orbtalk.

I took this a step further in that - I was surprised to see Success calling through SIP Broker but not directly via SIP URI

So I called my Orbtalk via SipBroker Access:

Per Orbtalk - To dial Orbtalk from another provider:

**(Provider SIP broker access string)*7579 <Account>

I'm not sure I'm calling correctly -

Dial access Number -> *7579 7182078
(Orbtalk Accnt ID disclosed to see if you reach AutoAttendent on my end)

When I call the Orbtalk number through SipBroker I get a Busy Tone.

BTW: I replicated your Orbtalk Voxalot settings

Huhm?

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I can reach this fine: *7579 7182078 (Miami Today)

Where are you running these tests from? Any chance that you're testing from behind the same network and that's confusing things?

Send me a PM with:
-Your OrbTalk Number
-Your VoXalot number
-The SIP URI @dyndns.org you're trying to forward to
(I just want to test whether I can get through from my end)
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Default Trixbox - Orbtalk through Voxalot - SOLVED! 12/22/08

After much angst - I have confirmed that I can call my Orbtalk NUmber and it rings at my Trixbox.

Here are my Findings:
Testing via SIP URI fails - Also testing Voxalot via SIP URI fail -
You have to test using SipBroker Access Numbers per below:

Dial your Local SipBroker Access Number-
In my case 13058901597
Once prompted, enter: *7579 for Orbtalk
Then dial your Orbtalk ID: 718####
or 13058901597 wait for prompt then *7579718####

Monitoring your CLR - One should see the call coming in.

Voxalot VSP Orbtalk Settings:

Provider Name* Orbtalk_In (Name of your Choice)
Username* ###### (Orbtalk ID NUmber)
Codecs* ulaw;alaw;g726;g729;ilbc;gsm
Host* talk.orbtalk.co.uk
Port* 5060
Active* Yes
SIP Register* Yes
Optimize Audio Path* Yes/No ( Both settings worked)

TrixBox Voxalot Trunk Settings: Thanks Emoci-

Outgoing Settings
Trunk Name: voxalot-out
PEER Details:

allow=alaw&ulaw&g729&g726
callerid=305### (Your Voxalot Number)
canreinvite=yes
context=from-pstn
disallow=all
dtmfmode=auto
fromdomain=voxalot.com
fromuser=305### (Your Voxalot Number)
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
qualify=no
secret=secret (Your Voxalot Password)
type=peer
username=305### (Your Voxalot Number)

Incoming Settings
USER Context: voxalot-in
USER Details:

allow=alaw&ulaw&g729&g726
callerid=305###
canreinvite=yes
context=from-pstn
disallow=all
dtmfmode=auto
fromdomain=voxalot.com
fromuser=305###
host=us.voxalot.com
insecure=very
nat=yes
qualify=no
secret=secret
type=peer
username=305###

Register String
305###:secret@us.voxalot.com

Your Console should show:

69*CLI> sip show registry
Host Username Refresh State

us.voxalot.com:5060 305### 585 Registered
69*CLI> sip show peers
Name/username Host Dyn Nat ACL Port Status
voxalot-out/305### 64.34.173.199 N 5060 Unmonitored
voxalot-in/305### 64.34.173.199 N 5060 Unmonitored

Testing:

Per above you have to call into your Trixbox via Sipgate.
Sip:305###@us.voxalot.com will fail
SiprbtalkID@orbtalk.co.uk will fail

1) First Test your Voxalot Incoming - Find a local access NUmber here:
SIPBroker - PSTN Numbers

Dial it - Ex: I had to dial the following to test Voxalot
1-305-890-1597 - I chose this because I have a Les accnt
You will hear a voice prompt to enter your number "now".
Wait till voice says NOW to dial the rest
Voxalot Access: *010 or *061
Dial your Voxalot Member ID: ######

In my case I dailed 13058901597...wait till prompted...*010305###

Your CLI should show the call coming in at this time and your phone should ring.

Now to Test OrbTalk setup:

Dial your SIPGate local access NUmber:
Dial the Orbtalk Gateway: *7579
Dial your Orbtalk ID: 718####

Ex: for me I dial 13058901597...wait for prompt...*7579718####

Your CLI should show your call coming in and your phone should ring.

Observations:

Too bad SIP URI's don;t work. My attempts to forward from Voxalot to my Trixbox sip URI failed. Emoci says to setup with MySipSwith.com but every overhead point will obviously incurre delay resulting in poor connection quality.

Calling Orbtalk -> MySipSwitch -> Voxalot -> My Trixbox - is not my idea of routing a call through the least HOPS possible.

Right now calls route:

Orbtalk -> Voxalot -> My Trixbox

From my SipGate tests Sound quality was Eh! OK. Voice breakups occured but remember: Calls were routing like:

In my case: Les.net -> Sipgate -> Orbtalk -> Voxalot -> My Trixbox

Direct calls from the UK to my Orbtalk should have many less hops and less delay.

I hope this helps someone -

Special Thanks to Emoci and The other person who's name escapes me for their time, consideration, patience and knowledge.

Happy Holidays to all and a Prosperous New Year.

Editor

FOLLOWUP:

I had the pleasure to receive an Orbtalk Telephone call from Emoci:

He called my UK Orbtalk number - perceived no audio delays - no echos etc.
The sound quality was impeccable.

We spoke and at some length and I discovered that:
Once the call arrives at Orbtalk, Vozalot simply hands the call off - without being in the middle as it were.

He stated that a Basic plan would not achieve the same result. $25yr for Orbatlk to work with my Trixbox is affordable.

But he mentioned the same hand off could be achieved with MySIPSwitch. I had a MySIPSwitch account but I coul'dnt figure the dialing plans out.

In summary: Now my Trixbox receives calls from my Orbtalk UK telephone number and with Great Sound Quality to boot. Not bad for $25 in my opinion.

I'm curious about exploring the Orbtalk to Trixbox solution through MySIPSwitch.

Another note: Emoci mentioned that my sip calls to voxalot and Orbtalk failed because I was calling from inside my system. To more accurately emulate a call from the outside he suggested using GIZMO or some service that initiates the call from their servers.

I tested with GIZMO and SIP calls to voxalot succeeded. Calls came right in to my TrixBox.

SIP calls to Orbtalk still failed making me suspect their servers do not accept SIP calls.

PSTN calls via Sipgate worked both with Voxalot and Orbtalk - but sound quality was nothing like the call I received from Emoci to my Orbtalk UK line.

Cheers

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