Mobile Callback Feature Request

Tranworld · 04-15-2007, 12:29 PM

Cost aside, sending an SMS is way way faster then using GPRS to login and initiate a call back, then logout etc. quite onerous, and beside using SMS can reach a much wider user base, those who has simple GSM phone.

I would have thought something line sending a string with your account number and the serial number of the call back set up, overall just about 8 digits, what could possibly be faster?

shezad · 04-15-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tranworld

Cost aside, sending an SMS is way way faster then using GPRS to login and initiate a call back, then logout etc. quite onerous, and beside using SMS can reach a much wider user base, those who has simple GSM phone.

I would have thought something line sending a string with your account number and the serial number of the call back set up, overall just about 8 digits, what could possibly be faster?

SMS function would be nice for a callback system, sometimes when you are out and see a phone for example if i am in UK and want to call someone in Norway a sms function could be like this :

voxalot 334455 pin 6543 callback 0044xxxxxxxx. dial 0047xxxxxxxx

Text message sends to a voxalot database that makes a webcall

This way would be great because sometimes you want to call back home and by dialing the number from UK to Norway would cost a lot but is cheaper to call when you have a Betamax product registered with a voxalot account

andy · 04-15-2007, 08:10 PM

this is faster - Go to, 8, wait a few seconds, scroll down, Send

and the only way to get sms that cheap, unless they are included in the contract even when roaming (like O2 UK), is to send those over wap/gprs as well

patos · 04-15-2007, 08:57 PM

Andy,

We are not requesting an SMS service in depreciation of the Mobile Callback. Both have their advantages. Nice for you that your operator offers accessible roaming costs, that is not the case with the majority of contracts. Getting another SIM just for using GPRS abroad is not really an option for most people.

Mobile Callback alone would not help you much if your are for instance roaming in a country without GRPS coverage or roaming agreements for data transfer. On the other hand, every network will accept SMS.

andy · 04-15-2007, 10:56 PM

I'm not against it; only pointing out that some of the things said for it are not so accurate, cheaper or faster. For many people, a roaming sms will cost about 50c, for which it's possible to be talking for quite a while

tripleacs · 04-16-2007, 02:38 AM

I suppose we do not need to worry about roaming SMS, as roaming voice call charges are usually large enough to negate any benefit you'd get by callback.

As for the format:

1. We could use the from/caller ID to identify initiating mobile. We could then restrict username to a registered mobile number.

2. So keeping it simple, the actual SMS could just be:

callback [from] [to]
eg. callback 004412345678 004412345679

Would be good to be able to specify different source and destination numbers, instead of being limited to the mobile - although may be bit of a risk.

could be reduced by adding
[username] [pin] callback [from] [to]
and matching the source mobile number with that pre-registered..

just an idea.

Mew · 04-16-2007, 04:58 AM

Hi all,

I agree on the fact that it would be easier for us if we wouldn't need to initiate the call from internet by connecting on mobile.voxalot.com Some months ago, I tried to use jajah and it cost me a lot in GPRS fees... :-(

A SMS to send or even better a call from an authorized number would be very interesting !

andy · 04-16-2007, 09:35 AM

Let's assume that someone has bought a SIM card of the roamed country. 2 things occur: they need to register the number on the Voxalot account, either by internet access, or including account details in the sms, and then the sms to the server is to a foreign number. If everyone wants an sms access number of either their home or the roamed country, there will be quite a high cost of setting it all up.

04-15-2007, 10:56 PM	#5
andy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 218 Thanks: 34 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts	I'm not against it; only pointing out that some of the things said for it are not so accurate, cheaper or faster. For many people, a roaming sms will cost about 50c, for which it's possible to be talking for quite a while Last edited by andy; 04-15-2007 at 10:58 PM.

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04-15-2007, 12:29 PM	#1
Tranworld Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 128 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Cost aside, sending an SMS is way way faster then using GPRS to login and initiate a call back, then logout etc. quite onerous, and beside using SMS can reach a much wider user base, those who has simple GSM phone. I would have thought something line sending a string with your account number and the serial number of the call back set up, overall just about 8 digits, what could possibly be faster?

04-15-2007, 08:10 PM	#3
andy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 218 Thanks: 34 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts	this is faster - Go to, 8, wait a few seconds, scroll down, Send and the only way to get sms that cheap, unless they are included in the contract even when roaming (like O2 UK), is to send those over wap/gprs as well

04-15-2007, 08:57 PM	#4
patos Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 20 Thanks: 3 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Andy, We are not requesting an SMS service in depreciation of the Mobile Callback. Both have their advantages. Nice for you that your operator offers accessible roaming costs, that is not the case with the majority of contracts. Getting another SIM just for using GPRS abroad is not really an option for most people. Mobile Callback alone would not help you much if your are for instance roaming in a country without GRPS coverage or roaming agreements for data transfer. On the other hand, every network will accept SMS.

04-16-2007, 02:38 AM	#6
tripleacs Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I suppose we do not need to worry about roaming SMS, as roaming voice call charges are usually large enough to negate any benefit you'd get by callback. As for the format: 1. We could use the from/caller ID to identify initiating mobile. We could then restrict username to a registered mobile number. 2. So keeping it simple, the actual SMS could just be: callback [from] [to] eg. callback 004412345678 004412345679 Would be good to be able to specify different source and destination numbers, instead of being limited to the mobile - although may be bit of a risk. could be reduced by adding [username] [pin] callback [from] [to] and matching the source mobile number with that pre-registered.. just an idea.

04-16-2007, 04:58 AM	#7
Mew Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 80 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Times in 1 Posts	Hi all, I agree on the fact that it would be easier for us if we wouldn't need to initiate the call from internet by connecting on mobile.voxalot.com Some months ago, I tried to use jajah and it cost me a lot in GPRS fees... :-( A SMS to send or even better a call from an authorized number would be very interesting !

04-16-2007, 09:35 AM	#8
andy Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: UK Posts: 218 Thanks: 34 Thanked 22 Times in 19 Posts	Let's assume that someone has bought a SIM card of the roamed country. 2 things occur: they need to register the number on the Voxalot account, either by internet access, or including account details in the sms, and then the sms to the server is to a foreign number. If everyone wants an sms access number of either their home or the roamed country, there will be quite a high cost of setting it all up.