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Unread 11-17-2008, 03:04 AM   #21
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Interesting to read people agreeing with a web page that doesn't exist any more
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When Paypal & betamax are involved in this issue, it is no surprise that the page was deleted. It would be no surprise me even if all the site was deleted
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Default Never EVER had a problem with BetaMAX (Internetcalls)

Originally Posted by juancarlos View Post
i am a customer of BVetamax for over 2 years and no problems ever. But I remeber that a friend of mine setup a voip business, and he was very happy within 1 months he was receiving loads of account. Sadly 95% of the transactions were fraud with credit cards and paypal accounts. Basically American Credit cards were used from within the US and outside the US to purchase credit, the credit was used in hours dialing mobiles and numbers in Palestine, Middle East. and next month ne got a charge back request from the bank and the bank took the money back from him.
Ditto here, I use BetaMAX as my primary provider for Termination in USA; they are the "BEST and ONLY" economical way to VOIP. For 10 Euro every 120 days and get 1,500 minutes a month to use "rolling average based daily"

I have NEVER been defrauded in any way by BetaMAX; smells like competition is not happy with them and this is a setup/scam to discredit them.
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Not everybody has been affected... in some cases the fraud has been as simple as the fact that peoples accts have been frozen before they could use all of their credit...

The original article has become lost (not erased in MyVoipProvider's Web update)

You can see most of the original info at:
Rip-off Report: Betamax GmbH & Co KG, FINAREA SA VOIP provider scamming and Unauthorized charges Kln Germany
Betamax VoIP Credit - Scam - Fraud - Cheating |
Betamax Scam Update |

(On a personal note, I haven't had any issues with them yet)

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Unread 12-06-2008, 03:48 PM   #25
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i have used betamax for quite a few years. I have used. Sipdiscount smsdiscount. smslisto, voipbuster, justvoip and paid with credit cards, moneybookers paypall and never ever had a problem with payments or extra charge. All perfectly. with money booked instantly.

Certainly all those people complaining must be that the CC have been compromised and fraudsters are attracted by voip to make call. Hence thats why betamax has so many restrictions with payments.

A friend of mine setup a voip business and 9 out of 10 purchases were made with compromised credit cards. he lost a lot of money on this voip business.
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