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Unread 08-06-2008, 02:28 AM   #1
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Default dial plan-block calls to mobiles (engin)

Hi, I'm new here, and trying to figure out what I am doing!

I need calls to mobiles blocked, engin said they can't do it, but to run our service through voxalot. Thats it, no numbers routed anywhere else. Just block calls to mobiles.

I have the free service, and I don't know where to go from there. I would like to allow certain mobile numbers, but not necessary. The dial plan examples just run me in circles, putting x's and z's everywhere. Help anyone? Thanks
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What mobile numbers do you wwant to block...?

If you can provide some examples of numbers you want to allow, and others you want to block, we can make some dial plan suggestions...
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Right. I have 11 mobile numbers I want to allow to be called, the rest blocked. As my daughter has now ran up a $500 bill. Unless that is too complicated, we can just block all calls to mobiles.
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See I don't know where you are, or how you're dialing...but let me put forward an example...

Let's say you're dealing with UK mobile numbers, which are in the range
447xxxxxxx

I want to allow calls to:
-All landline numbers
-These two mobile numbers:
4479339933
4479339922
-Block calls to other mobile numbers

I would set dial plans as follows:

_4479339933 ${EXTEN} MyProvider
_4479339922 ${EXTEN} MyProvider
_447x. ${EXTEN} VoXalot
(hence the blocking, since voxalot cannot dial mobile numbers, it'll give a message that the number you've entered cannot be dialed whenever someone tries)
_44x. ${EXTEN} MyProvider (allowing all other non-mobile calls)
_9944x. ${EXTEN:2} MyProvider (allowing you to make mobile calls if neccessary, but only by dialing 99 followed by number..of course it doesn't have to be 99, you can pick anything, it's like a code to access an LD line)


For background info:
447x. means starts with 447, and can continue on in terms number length...
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Oh ok. Making sense.

I'm in Sydney, Australia.

My Voip is engin, and land line is Telstra.

Mobile numbers are 04## ### ### (10 digit, all starting with 04) (unless it needs have the 61 in front of it?, as thats how the mobile numbers are listed on engin)

So under advanced settings,

Priority* 1
Pattern* _0417270917 (one of the numbers to allow)
Comment* Block calls to mobiles
Replacement* 99${EXTEN} (enter 99 to allow call to go through)
Provider* engin
Active* Yes
Virtual Toll Free Enabled* No
ENUM Lookup* No ${EXTEN}
Geographic Lookup* No

Also, under Voice Service Provider settings,


Provider Name* engin
From User* my telephone number that we dial out on
From Domain* syd.byo.engin.com.au
Username* my number again
Codecs* g729;g723;g726;ilbc;gsm;ulaw;alaw ???
Host* syd.byo.engin.com.au
Port* 5060
Active* Yes
SIP Register* No
Optimize Audio Path* No

Am I anywhere close? Thanks

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-Whether or not a 61 in front is required:
If you were dialing directly through Engin, without VoXalot involved, do you need to dial 61 in front?

-You mentioned Telstra for landline, do you have a SPA3102, and want to block calls to mobiles via the landline as well? (the plans below deal with VoIP from Engin, but not landline calls... )


1.For specific numbers you want to allow:

Priority* 1
Pattern* _0417270917 (one of the numbers to allow)
Comment* Allow Calls to specific mobile numbers
Replacement* ${EXTEN}
Provider* engin
Active* Yes
Virtual Toll Free Enabled* No
ENUM Lookup* No ${EXTEN}
Geographic Lookup* No

(all specific numbers to allow should be before the rule below... the priority number decides the order...but you don't have to go in 1,2,3, you can set priorities as 10,20,30, so later if you need to add something in between, you're not wasting time re-arranging everything)

2. For numbers you want to block

Priority* 20
Pattern* _04x.
Comment* Block Calls to Mobiles
Replacement* ${EXTEN}
Provider* VoXalot
Active* Yes
Virtual Toll Free Enabled* No
ENUM Lookup* No ${EXTEN}
Geographic Lookup* No

3. Allowing all other Non-Mobile numbers:

Priority* 30
Pattern* _0xx.
Comment* Allow Calls to Non-Mobile numbers
Replacement* ${EXTEN}
Provider* engin
Active* Yes
Virtual Toll Free Enabled* No
ENUM Lookup* No ${EXTEN}
Geographic Lookup* No

4. Creating an option to dial the mobile numbers you blocked above if needed, but with a special prefix....

Priority* 40
Pattern* _9904x.
Comment* Enter 99 in front to allow a call to a mobile that's otherwise blocked
Replacement* ${EXTEN:2}
Provider* engin
Active* Yes
Virtual Toll Free Enabled* No
ENUM Lookup* No ${EXTEN}
Geographic Lookup* No

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Great! I put all that in. No, we do not have to dial the 61 to dial out. So I left it out. Thanks!

No, we will leave mobiles open on the telstra line, for now. We would have to have the power out or unplug the engin voicebox to be able to dial out on telstra, so we can just leave it.

And under my Voice Service Provider settings, specifically the Codecs, and From User and Username, do I have that correct? Thanks again

And would I need to put my engin account # anywhere? 100###68


Provider Name* engin
From User* my telephone number that we dial out on (the number engin assigned us? or our telstra #?)
From Domain* syd.byo.engin.com.au
Username* my number again? (or account #?)
Codecs* g729;g723;g726;ilbc;gsm;ulaw;alaw ???
Host* syd.byo.engin.com.au
Port* 5060
Active* Yes
SIP Register* No
Optimize Audio Path* No
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No, we will leave mobiles open on the telstra line, for now. We would have to have the power out or unplug the engin voicebox to be able to dial out on telstra, so we can just leave it.
If you do indeed have a SPA3102, you have options to choose if you want to place a call over Engin or your Landline (Telstra) without powering down etc. ... In any case these are extra options that won't affect you for now, but you may want to dig up some information, if you have the time, and are curious

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And under my Voice Service Provider settings, specifically the Codecs, and From User and Username, do I have that correct? Thanks again
-In a normal situation:
From User and Username should the same
From Domain and Host should be same
(Unless you click Advanced settings, the From User and the From Domain option does not appear, since it is set automatically)

-About From USER:
If Engin allows you to set/spoof your own custom Caller ID this is the field to enter the custom Caller ID (however if Engin does not allow it, and you attempt to change it, you'll notice Engin will no longer function properly)

-About 'From Domain' and 'Host'
If you have a provider that requires you to enter both a Host and an Outbound Proxy (and these are not the same), and provided you've tried using just the Host value on both fields without success, then you can try:
From Domain: Enter your Provider's Proxy Value
Host: Enter your Providers Outbound Proxy
(However, from what you describe I don't think this applies to Engin at all, so you should be fine as you have it right now)

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And would I need to put my engin account # anywhere? 100###68
When registering directly with Engin via your ATA, did you need to specify your Engin acct. number anywhere?


Finally about codecs:

This is what I use for all of my providers
(this tends to keep the quality high, but ulaw (or also know as g711u) is a bit more bandwith intensive):

ulaw;alaw;g726;g729;ilbc;gsm

I would try that, and see if you have any issues....otherwise as a rule of thumb:

ulaw;alaw;g726;g729;ilbc;gsm: enter this if you have greater than or equal to 256kbps uplink and live in N. America

alaw;ulaw;g726;g729;ilbc;gsm: enter this if you have greater than or equal to 256kbps uplink and live other than in N. America

g729;ilbc;gsm;g726;ulaw;alaw: enter this if you have less than 256kbps uplink

Hope that helps....
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Ok, all is entered as planned. But my phone is not affected. I can still dial mobiles.

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When registering directly with Engin via your ATA?
As far as I remember we just plugged in our Engin voicebox and went.

It seems like Voxalot is not connecting to my line at all.

Maybe I need my engin assigned phone number somewhere else?

PS my router is WGR614v6.
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Ok, all is entered as planned. But my phone is not affected. I can still dial mobiles.


As far as I remember we just plugged in our Engin voicebox and went.

It seems like Voxalot is not connecting to my line at all.

Maybe I need my engin assigned phone number somewhere else?

PS my router is WGR614v6.
You'll need to stop directly registering with Engin, and register with the VoXalot server instead....It sounds to me like you're still directly registered with Engin directly....

What is the version/brand of the Engin Dveice (ATA)?

You're gonna need to access the Web Interface of that device...

NVM...if you have the ENGIN 3102 from Engin, that's nothing more than the Linksys SPA3102....

So:
-Hookup a computer to the Ethernet Port
-Open a browser in that computer and go to 192.168.0.1
-User: admin, Password: password (according to http://www.engin.com.au/Downloads/EN...UserGuide1.pdf )
-Now click on the admin link and try to login as an Admin
-If the same user/pass won't work you'll have to contact Engin to obtain your administrator password

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