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Unread 03-20-2007, 09:31 AM   #81
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Default 'reverse masquerading' ?

Again I'd like to ask if it were possible do s.th. like 'reverse masqueradin' so that the IP-address of the voxalot-client is forwarded to the Voip-Provider by voxalot, as if the voxalot-client were directly registered at the provider (betamax).

Voxalot would became a kind of transparent Voip-provider.
Well of course I don't know if voxalot would like this idea?

This would eliminate the problem of having to many minutes per IP-Adrress.

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Again I'd like to ask if it were possible do s.th. like 'reverse masqueradin' so that the IP-address of the voxalot-client is forwarded to the Voip-Provider by voxalot, as if the voxalot-client were directly registered at the provider (betamax).
Is this actually possible, or permissible? And then ...

Let's say I use Voxalot mobile callback.

I have no internet connection or registered ATA. What is my IP address?

Hmmm, perhaps I've just realised something; maybe this is why some people are still getting some connectivity on some servers and I'm not.
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Is this actually possible, or permissible? And then ...

Let's say I use Voxalot mobile callback.

I have no internet connection or registered ATA. What is my IP address?

Hmmm, perhaps I've just realised something; maybe this is why some people are still getting some connectivity on some servers and I'm not.
In this scenario the IP address is that of your "Preferred Server" selected on the member details page.
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In this scenario the IP address is that of your "Preferred Server" selected on the member details page.
Thanks Martin, that's what I thought.

But where people mention above that they still had some calls on say the US server, I was getting nothing from mobile use.

So it just occurred to me as a possibility that maybe you had a small range of addresses per server, and some but not all were recognised by Betamax. Only a wild guess about stuff I know little about ...
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Thanks Martin, that's what I thought.

But where people mention above that they still had some calls on say the US server, I was getting nothing from mobile use.

So it just occurred to me as a possibility that maybe you had a small range of addresses per server, and some but not all were recognised by Betamax. Only a wild guess about stuff I know little about ...
Yes your right again. The U.S. ranges are split by account number:

100000-499999 - Server 1
500000-999999 - Server 2

or there abouts.
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Yes your right again. The U.S. ranges are split by account number:

100000-499999 - Server 1
500000-999999 - Server 2

or there abouts.
hmmmm, interesting

my main account so far starts with 4, and I set up another a few days ago, maybe to play with VoxCallMe later, that starts in 6

perhaps I should try the other Voxalot account?

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hmmmm, interesting

my main account so far starts with 4, and I set up another a few days ago, maybe to play with VoxCallMe later, that starts in 6

perhaps I should try the other Voxalot account?
Yes you should. Remember this split only applies to Web / Mobile callbacks to help balance the load. If you register a device or phone with VoXaLot the IP address of the proxy that the device is registered to will be the one the VSP sees.
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Default Betamax is a "killer" provider

Although I find voxalot a superb service, the lack of a dial out to PSTN service makes Betamax (I use voipdiscount) a perfect complement to this service.

Now that it seems like Betamax has become incompatible with voxalot, why doesn't voxalot look into providing dial out to PSTN services similar to Betamax and compete head to head with them? I for one would be willing to pay more for my outgoing calls in order to benefit from the voxalot services.

For the time being, I am switching to having my Siemens C450IP register directly to voipbuster, and having my ipkall DID redirected to voipbuster (yes, it seems to work), but I am toying with the idea of getting another device which would allow sending calls to voipbuster and using voxalot for SIP / incoming calls.
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Now that it seems like Betamax has become incompatible with voxalot, why doesn't voxalot look into providing dial out to PSTN services similar to Betamax and compete head to head with them? I for one would be willing to pay more for my outgoing calls in order to benefit from the voxalot services.
That's bound to help inspire Betamax confidence

I don't think Voxalot has seen itself as a call provider so far, and entering this market might need investment on a different scale.

There are plenty of other VoIP providers, most of which are usable with Voxalot, and some with tariffs as low as Betamax. I have never noticed Voxalot express any favouritism to any provider, indeed the whole point of it is to give people flexibility and more choice of providers, so I don't see why changes at one should cause them to review their whole strategy like this.

I hope that Betamax will take the time to inform itself what Voxalot actually is, and thus discover that it enhances its usability for many of its customers.

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